Can anything else cause serious BHG symptoms besides a BHG?

InFrnt0fU

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I read on someone elses thread that his son had a bad "something" that caused all the coolant to rush out of the engine. Can bad sensors in any part of the t-stat housing (the ends of mine are white crusted) cause a look-a-like BHG. Sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm just trying to learn as much as I can about the evil BHG. thx
 

InFrnt0fU

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Well I did, and I pulled out of my driveway to go to work and all the coolant i had just put in it was on the ground and my car instantly start to overheat. Its in my garage up on jack stands with the turbo, intake mani, and exhaust mani off. I wanna go to MHG anyway.
starscream5000 said:
Experiencing any symptoms right now?
 

kyle1jzsupra

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yeah i had the coolant shooting out of the resoivor and i drove it all the time as it had a leak then ......i went to the mall and reved it up and it just blew and had a trail of white smoke the whole way home behind me haha
 

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mine was shooting fluid out of the reservoir and boiling over allot for a while, then i swapped out my radiator cap for a new one and redid my coolant/water mixture and it was fixed.

Put a block tester on it first that will tell you if its a bhg thats causing it.
 

GrimJack

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There are several things that can cause this.

Earlier model 7M engines have a rubber plug on a coolant line near the firewall on the exhaust side. It can fail under constant head cycles from the exhaust manifold, and when it does it will dump all your coolant. It's about $4 to replace and can save you a costly engine rebuild.

A faulty hose from the radiator neck to the overflow bottle will cause coolant to spill out but air to get pulled in. A few cycles of this will cause you car to start to overheat. Same problem with the pickup line in the overflow bottle.

Faulty thermostat will cause overheating.

Faulty radiator cap will cause coolant loss, then overheating.

The fact that our radiators are finer mesh than our intercoolers / ac condensers will allow gunk to pass through the first two but get stuck on the front of the radiator. This results in no airflow over the radiator, which again makes for overheating.

Worse, these make a BHG much more likely, as an overheated head will often warp enough to let the head gasket leak, at which point things rapidly get worse.
 

Poodles

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ANY leak can cause bad stuff in the coolant system.

The reason it's pressurized is because it raises the boiling point and keeps the water from turning into steam. Loose the pressure, you overheat in a thermal runaway situation.

Pressure test the system and find all the leaks.

Have you done a compression test, and a radiator gas test (looks for combustion gasses in the coolant)?
 

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GrimJack said:
Earlier model 7M engines have a rubber plug on a coolant line near the firewall on the exhaust side. It can fail under constant head cycles from the exhaust manifold, and when it does it will dump all your coolant..


happened to me, the damn thing literally snapped in half, spilling coolang all over my exhaust manifold..

I just replaced it with one entire piece of rubber hose, no problems since...
 

InFrnt0fU

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GrimJack said:
There are several things that can cause this.

Earlier model 7M engines have a rubber plug on a coolant line near the firewall on the exhaust side. It can fail under constant head cycles from the exhaust manifold, and when it does it will dump all your coolant. It's about $4 to replace and can save you a costly engine rebuild.

Could you tell me exactly where this is, I'd really like to check it out. Thanks grimjack.
 
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bwest

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GrimJack said:
There are several things that can cause this.

Earlier model 7M engines have a rubber plug on a coolant line near the firewall on the exhaust side. It can fail under constant head cycles from the exhaust manifold, and when it does it will dump all your coolant. It's about $4 to replace and can save you a costly engine rebuild.

When I had my motor out, I took the heater pipe to a rad shop and had them plug it. One less thing to worry about. Before that, I would replace that plug (behind the #6 exhaust runner) and the 90deg elbow that is right above it every spring. It was worth the piece of mind.

GrimJack said:
Faulty thermostat will cause overheating.

Faulty radiator cap will cause coolant loss, then overheating.

I also had a water pump seal that was leaking (on the impeller shaft) so I would suck in air and blow coolant out the reservoir. That one took a little while to figure out.

I usually make a habit to change the 90deg hose (rear of head), thermostat and rad cap 1x per year. Overkill? maybe. But it also allows me to look into the cooling system and make sure that everything else is in good working order.
 

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InFrnt0fU said:
Could you tell me exactly where this is, I'd really like to check it out. Thanks grimjack.
It's not that hard to find... look down the exhaust side of the engine, right at the back near the firewall. There is a coolant pipe that wraps around the back of the engine, at about the level of the head / block junction, this pipe has a T in it and one end of the T is the rubber cap.

Unfortunately I don't have pics, as mine is the 89+ setup without the T.
 

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What could cause BHG symptoms? Heaps of things.
Small coolant leak(rad cap, hoses).
Retarded ignition timing.
Lean fuel mixtures.
Dodgey radiator.
Poor cooling system maintenence (corrosion in water jackets).

etc etc etc.

Regards, Andrew.
 

n_sain_mkiii

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since this is bout bhg... another question.... i could smell coolant when i first start the car and starts driving.... and also when i turn on the heater?? any reason why it would do this???