Buying an older jeep cherokee

iwannadie

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So, as if the supra doesnt eat all my money and effort Im looking to add another vehicle to the mix. I was set on a regular mid 90s i6 cherokee 4x4, I really liked the boxy look of them. Now ive flip flopped over to the grand cherokee v8 4x4 and its sexy curves.

I keep holding out to find the perfect grand now, I passed on one last week. The guy wouldnt even try to negotiate on price, in his ad he said OBO even. It seems each day that goes by and gas prices go up the jeep prices come down at least.

Anyone think the grand isnt as solid off road as the regular cherokee? I want a daily driver that I can then take off road. Its not going to be a rock crawler or anything just some trails. I also want to have some towing power is the grand better off there with the v8?
 

7Mboost

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What is the max you will be doing offroad?
What will you be towing?
And if you just want a solid 4x4 there are more than just Jeeps; broncos, blazers, 1500's, F150's...etc.
 

iwannadie

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high psi 1jz said:
What is the max you will be doing offroad?
What will you be towing?
And if you just want a solid 4x4 there are more than just Jeeps; broncos, blazers, 1500's, F150's...etc.

Max offroad like I said likely just some trails or dirt roads. Ive never had a 4x4 before so Im not sure how much Ill hit offroad. Again no serious rock crawling or anything. I know theres tons of desert trails around here I can go find.

Id like to be able to tow a trailer with some dirt bikes/atvs eventually. Or be able to tow my supra(on trailer) if I ever want to.

I looked at the broncos and blazers but Im really set on a Jeep now.
 

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the I6 has more torque than the V8 does in the grands. you have to weigh it out, the grand is better for trailer stability in that it's got some more weight so the trailer wont muscle you around, but it doesn't have the same torque that the regular cherokee has. (this is assuming you're talking about a 5.2, not the 5.9 grand cherokee RT, don't get the RT it's a street missile after the fashion of the GMC typhoon, but it's useless offroad and you'll blow apart your transfer case if you try to tow with it) anyhow, they're about equal offroad, either will be more than enough for what you're saying, the cherokee has more offroad potential due to less weight and more ground clearance, plus modification parts for cherokees are dime a dozen.

both motors are very reliable, but the cherokee's AMC I6 will outlast the roaches, run it on no oil for weeks and it wont complain, and any kind of combustible fluid you can find will work for fuel, I think the book says they'll run fine on 82 octane or something ridiculous. so you can get fuel wherever it's cheapest and not have to worry. shit you could cut your fuel with heater kerosene or used motor oil and it'd be fine. Not that I'd recommend it, but it's good to know you don't have to worry about it.

weak points of both is the rear axle, the dana 35c won't take much for abuse. but stock tires and engine you're not likely to kill it unless you're driving a stick and you're very very violent with the clutch (I did one in with exactly that method, so it's not impossible, but it's rare).

The automatic tranny in both of the ones you're looking at is the same as the supra, so it's definitely good for some jam, just make sure you keep it cool and you'll be fine.

Any other questions just PM me and I'll help you out as best as I can.
 

ToyoHabu

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I am also looking to get a Jeeb, an 1985 Grand Wagoneer FSJ(Full size jeep)
with the AMC 360

looks a lot like this.

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the engine is in peices but comes with rebuilt transmission.

I was also consideering a jeep cherokee or a isuzu trooper.

but you cant beet the $500 price I was offered.
 

Aaron J Williams

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The early grand cherokees with automatics had transmission problems. I've changed 4 automatic transmissions on grand cherokees, all at around 145,00 miles. I have never changed a manual trans in a 4.0 I6 jeep. I did change one rear diff in a 93 cherokee I6 though. I vote for the 4.0 I6 !
 

iwannadie

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Junior said:
the I6 has more torque than the V8 does in the grands. you have to weigh it out, the grand is better for trailer stability in that it's got some more weight so the trailer wont muscle you around, but it doesn't have the same torque that the regular cherokee has. (this is assuming you're talking about a 5.2, not the 5.9 grand cherokee RT, don't get the RT it's a street missile after the fashion of the GMC typhoon, but it's useless offroad and you'll blow apart your transfer case if you try to tow with it) anyhow, they're about equal offroad, either will be more than enough for what you're saying, the cherokee has more offroad potential due to less weight and more ground clearance, plus modification parts for cherokees are dime a dozen.

both motors are very reliable, but the cherokee's AMC I6 will outlast the roaches, run it on no oil for weeks and it wont complain, and any kind of combustible fluid you can find will work for fuel, I think the book says they'll run fine on 82 octane or something ridiculous. so you can get fuel wherever it's cheapest and not have to worry. shit you could cut your fuel with heater kerosene or used motor oil and it'd be fine. Not that I'd recommend it, but it's good to know you don't have to worry about it.

weak points of both is the rear axle, the dana 35c won't take much for abuse. but stock tires and engine you're not likely to kill it unless you're driving a stick and you're very very violent with the clutch (I did one in with exactly that method, so it's not impossible, but it's rare).

The automatic tranny in both of the ones you're looking at is the same as the supra, so it's definitely good for some jam, just make sure you keep it cool and you'll be fine.

Any other questions just PM me and I'll help you out as best as I can.


I did forget to mention which ever I go with it will be automatic for certain. Ive herd they are pretty much bomb proof. Everyone Ive ever known with a jeep says they have had manual trans issues.

Also the rear diff. I read the chrysler(the case is flat on the bottom?) is way better than the dana. Alot of people said the dana is fine with stock sized tires though so I dont know.... I never towed anything before so Im not sure whats considered a heavy tow. I know the supra is a heavy car but is that going to push the tow limits of either cherokee? I read(Im on the jeepsunlimited.com forums lol) the real weak point is the auto trans cooler, so that would on the list to upgrade before towing.

Ive seen alot of grands with lift kits so that will be in the cards for me. Nothing major just 3" or something simple. I know the cherokee has alot more options for after market parts compared to the grand.

I guess I should prioritize what I want outa the jeep then decide from there.

1, Its gotta be reliable. my supra isnt a good DD the jeep has got to be. I only drive 8 miles to work each way, so im not looking to rack up alot of miles. I do plan road trips with it though, I cant afford to have a break down out of state lol.
(sounds like either cherokee will be ok there, with proper care of course. Maybe the grand being better for long trips?)

2, Cheap parts to fix anything that might break on it **edit** Its also gotta be easy to work on. Ill be doing all the work not paying a shop ;)
(I think the cherokee has the edge over the grand)

3, Offroading and durability. Since I have no wheeling experience I dont want to hit a bump wrong and destroy something. Ground clearance will be the issue until I lift then should be ok either way.
(Cherokee has the edge, better stock clearence and cheaper lifts)

4, Towing, I6 has more torque but Im not towing anything major or on long hauls. If i want to take the supra to the trake it wont be a far drive. Or a trailer and 2 dirt bikes doesnt sound heavy to me?
(Grand seems better here being heavier)

5, Insurance, I dont plan to cover the jeep, just liability. If I wreck it Ill buy another, dont need the insurance to step in.
(Cherokee is cheaper)

6, Price, I want to spend around 3k to buy it. Ive had some people say buy an older cherokee for 1500 then put the other 1500 into fixxing it up and lift. They said doing that will make for a great jeep setup. On the other side, I can dump 3k on a stock Grand then slowly add lift and all that down the road as needed.
(toss up for me)
 

iwannadie

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Aaron J Williams said:
The early grand cherokees with automatics had transmission problems. I've changed 4 automatic transmissions on grand cherokees, all at around 145,00 miles. I have never changed a manual trans in a 4.0 I6 jeep. I did change one rear diff in a 93 cherokee I6 though. I vote for the 4.0 I6 !


What year did the grands seem to have trans problems? Im not up on the grand models lol so not sure where the 'early grands' fall into things.
 

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Any 6 cylinder should be fine for towing, hell maybe even a samari/tracker with lower gearing could tow and be good on the trails, + it's great on gas.
 

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i have a 91 jeep cherokee.. (I6, automatic, 2WD) and i love it.. never had any problems with it. Cheap to find parts and everything. i vouch for XJ (cherokee)!!
 

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I owned a 1990 Jeep Cherokee 4x4 with the I6.

:love: it!

Amazingly torquey for whatever the cause, they aren't HUGE on the outside so you don't have the "driving like a trucker" feel...yet the inside is very spacey (even for a big guy like myself).

With balding stock tires and 3ft. of snow with packed ice on top...it would rock through it like it was nothing. It was great.

Only downside to it was during cold weather, it would take like 3-4 seconds to fire up...once idling, there was no going back. :biglaugh:

Obviously, that won't be much of an issue for you being in Arizona...so I think you'll be great! I do miss mine... :(

-Jeff
 

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Two thumbs up for this thread

I've been looking at getting a jeep for a winter driver so that my supra can stay warm and cozy in the garage during the perils of winter... I was hopeing to find a MT model, but apparently that's NOT the way to go :p

Good info here. Thanks
 

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the parents have a 97 grand cherokee laredo. gotta say, it is a tough little fucker. that thing has gone through some rough shit and loved it.
 

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I would go with the little cherokee, on a windy day pulling a supra wouldl be rough if it was in an enclosed trailer, but I assume that you're gonna be pulling on an open trailer.

cherokee's are cheaper, and keep some money in a "just in case" fund, but they're easier to work on and there's less stuff to go wrong. I'd go with the automatic, like I said, so long as you keep the fluid cool, you're golden. It's when the fluid gets over hot that you have trouble. The biggest trick to making sure the fluid stays cool is to make sure that the rad fins aren't degrading. if you get a dry-rotted rad, swap it, better now to do a rad for $150 than to wait and do a rad and tranny both for $1000.

and ya, 4.0 I6, tough as all hell, I drove mine in -40 without problems, took 2 or 3 seconds to start and then was fine, it was probably the only vehicle I've ever had that I would comfortably trust with my life to always get me home. I would have no qualms driving places where if it broke down, I was unquestionably dead. Not that that's really ever been an issue, but just demonstrating how much I trusted the thing. Jeez, at one point I did blow a headgasket (long story involving hours of wheeling out in the bush, a popped rad hose, no coolant and a long long long drive home running with coolant at about half capacity.) and it got me 800km home running on 3 cylinders without a problem. I've seen guys drap them on rocks, break 4 piston skirts and drive it 200km's home.

hands down, far and away, the toughest motor I have EVER seen in action. Maybe not in terms of hp it can take, but in terms of abuse you can dish out to it and it'll just come back smiling and asking for more.
 

TurboFreak

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Check out Mallcrawlin.com for a lot of info on Grand Cherokee's.

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1, Its gotta be reliable. my supra isnt a good DD the jeep has got to be. I only drive 8 miles to work each way, so im not looking to rack up alot of miles. I do plan road trips with it though, I cant afford to have a break down out of state lol.
(sounds like either cherokee will be ok there, with proper care of course. Maybe the grand being better for long trips?)
Yep either are fine and very reliable and I would say the Grand is more comfortable for long trips.

2, Cheap parts to fix anything that might break on it **edit** Its also gotta be easy to work on. Ill be doing all the work not paying a shop
(I think the cherokee has the edge over the grand)
Parts are cheap($40 for a brand new water pump) and they are hella easy to work on.

3, Offroading and durability. Since I have no wheeling experience I dont want to hit a bump wrong and destroy something. Ground clearance will be the issue until I lift then should be ok either way.
(Cherokee has the edge, better stock clearence and cheaper lifts)
IMO the cherokee probably does have the edge in offroad capability but the lifts and stuff are def. not a lot cheaper for the cherokee and the Grands do JUST fine offroading.

4, Towing, I6 has more torque but Im not towing anything major or on long hauls. If i want to take the supra to the trake it wont be a far drive. Or a trailer and 2 dirt bikes doesnt sound heavy to me?
(Grand seems better here being heavier)
Towing...After researching cause I needed to pick up my Supra 8 hours away I have found that the tranny and engine of the I-6 would take quite a beating. But for just a couple miles to the track then I say the I-6 would be fine.

5, Insurance, I dont plan to cover the jeep, just liability. If I wreck it Ill buy another, dont need the insurance to step in.
(Cherokee is cheaper)
Yeah...uh you pretty much got that down.

6, Price, I want to spend around 3k to buy it. Ive had some people say buy an older cherokee for 1500 then put the other 1500 into fixxing it up and lift. They said doing that will make for a great jeep setup. On the other side, I can dump 3k on a stock Grand then slowly add lift and all that down the road as needed.
(toss up for me)
I got my 1996 Grand Cherokee with a 4" lift and 32" tires with 123,000 miles on it for $2900. You just gotta look around there are some killer deals out there.
 
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