Brake bleeding tool - review

iwannadie

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Ok, I wanted to bleed the brakes on my new(to me) jeep and was up in the air over a vac tool or speed bleeders. After a while I decided on the vac tool hoping to use it on more than 1 vehicle(unlike speed bleeders). Also I read speed bleeders and off roading might cause problems with the bleeders down the road.

So, off to sears I went and picked up the vac tool on sale for 49$. It looked like exactly what I wanted in a bleeding tool.

Today I put it to the test.

First off the rubber adapter that goes on the end the clear bleed hose to the bleeder sucks. It was letting air in, the kit came with a few sizes only 1 was the right fit and still leaked. I pulled that adapter off and put the clear hose right on the bleeder and that worked better at least.

The next hassle, the small cup would not sit in one spot or up right. Every time I do anything the cup is on its side. Its a very light weight plastic with a small base and all the weight is on the top. So that became a constant battle holding on to the cup while working the pump.

The dissapointment continues the more I used the vac. I was expecting a few pumps would pull out alot of fluid. Well it took prolly 100 pumps and still I had air trapped in the clear hose. I had to raise the catch cup above the bleed screw and operate the vac. So now Im laying under the jeep balacing a cup high up having to hold the vac near it and pump 100s of times.

The cup is very small and filled up way before I had clear fluid coming out. The pass rear tire I had to empty the cup 4 times. Of course when you empty the cup brake fluid likes to just go every where. I never spilled so much brake fluid ever before on any brake job. Even putting new calipers in my supra I didnt make nearly the mess as just this bleed job.

I made it to the driver rear and hit a big problem. At some point the cup tipped slightly over and I didnt notice. Well, the vac sucked up brake fluid into the vac itself. It seemed in 1 pump it suddenly decided to really pull some fluid of course. So then my vac is full of fluid and I have to pull all the hoses off and get the fluid out. Of course all the fluid doesnt come out, it leaks all over the vac and floor again. At this point having brake fluid on my hands and touching the pump, the craftsman logo is now a huge smear of red. Im sure the vac internals are ruined having come in contact with brake fluid as well.

I tried to do the pass front side but just gave up. The pump wasnt sucking any fluid out anymore. Brake fluid was slowly seeping out of the rear of the vac.

All in all, the tool for me at least is a joke. Speed bleeders are 100x's better. I should have stuck with the speed bleeders, I have them in my supra and motorcycle. Never had a problem with the SB's either, crack them 1/4 turn and pump the pedal - done.

I hope sears takes the vac back, I have the receipt and its only been 2 days since I bought it. The vac looks like its 10 years old now after 1 use.
 

iwannadie

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Noone ever wants to help me work on my car so I need to do it by myself lol. I guess the garage being like 120 degree has something to do with noone wanting to be out there helping.

I didnt want to spend a couple hundred bucks. Again I was going to go with speed bleeders or this tool, they are about the same price.
 

iwannadie

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Im just going to go with speed bleeders. I know they work and are the same price as this tool was. Just thougth Id give anyone whos thinking of buying a vac tool a heads up on my experience lol.
 

IJ.

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Start at the furthest bleeder from the Master close bleeder pump vacc until gauge maxxes out then crack bleeder

close bleeder just before the gauge zeros out and repeat.

do this 2>3 times then move to the next furthest bleeder and repeat

Check fluid level in the Master topping up if needed then move on.

100 pumps is all wrong don't blame the tool.
 

iwannadie

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IJ. said:
Start at the furthest bleeder from the Master close bleeder pump vacc until gauge maxxes out then crack bleeder

close bleeder just before the gauge zeros out and repeat.

do this 2>3 times then move to the next furthest bleeder and repeat

Check fluid level in the Master topping up if needed then move on.

100 pumps is all wrong don't blame the tool.

I followed the instructions, it didnt say anything like you just suggested. Also with the bleeder closed if I pump the vac, the gauge didnt go up at all no matter how many pumps. It was all setup correctly, only 2 hoses to deal with not much to do wrong.
 

Ckanderson

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^yea but toilets flush backwards where your from.. everything is opposite.

Thus, his shitty brake bleeder works perfect in your nation.
 

iwannadie

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IJ. said:
<shrugs> been using mine for many years this way and it works perfectly.

Maybe my pump was bad or something. If i cover the vac input with my finger and pump, it builds vac pressure just fine. When the hoses are all on with the bleeder closed and I pump, it doesnt build any pressure.

With the bleeder open and pump, the vac gauge doesnt move at all. Fluid stand stills until I pump, theres no leaks anywhere that I can tell. If I stop pumping the fluid/air stay rigth where they are in the hose. If there was a leak the fluid/air should move as air is getting in/out.
 

Mk3runner

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hell i'm ghetto, if no ones around to help. I'll use a block of wood to brace the pedal. sounds stupid, yes. but it does the job if i'm the only one around.
 

Satan

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I just re-did the brakes on the wife's MKIV... using a large bottle of fluid and a ~14" vacuum line. Poured some fluid in the empty brake system (I had already drained all four lines/calipers). Left the rest in the bottle.

Made a hole in the cap and fed the hose thru. While bleeding, slightly loosen cap to vent the air out.

Use the same bottle to refill reservoir. I ended up with maybe 1/3 of the bottle left and did 2 passes (fstarting with the furthest caliper)... took about 20 minutes and the beeyotch brakes very well. Free, simple, and MOST importantly... has worked better for me than the 3 cheapo 1-man brake bleeder deals I have sitting on the shelf.

Unless I'm doing it all the time, I would not invest in a pump.
 

JZ_killa_t68

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I just pump the brakes a couple three times, wedge a stick between the seat and the brake (clutch) pedal, run my ass back to the applicable bleeder screw, and repeat as necessary. I usually lose 2-3 lbs doing this.
 

iwannadie

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IJ. said:
Add the first bleeder hose you're using and try again.

Continue until you isolate the leak, if the pump holds vacc on your finger it's not the problem.

Actually I took the pump back and got speed bleeders on the way instead.