bov question

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ok ok im new to mk3's..i just recently got mine back a cuople days ago from the shop..i put on my hks ssqv bov as my first mod..it sounds nice..but how do you make that sound by just sitting there..cause i can only here it when im actually driving the car..yah corny question but i just want to know..thanks
 

ross1

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if you bounce it off the rev limiter for a second it sound off a little but you only make boost while driving...

ross
 

casper35404

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If you're running on stock boost that's what will happen. If you bump up the boost with a boost controller or shims then you'll be able to make it sound at around 4-5k.
 

xarewhyayen

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casper35404 said:
If you're running on stock boost that's what will happen. If you bump up the boost with a boost controller or shims then you'll be able to make it sound at around 4-5k.
BZZT.. wrong... the reason you dont hear it when you arent driving is because the turbo isnt really spooling much at all... when your engine has resistance, you spool the turbo... you could either get a nice exhaust/Elbow/Downpipe and make the turbo spool easier, or get a better spooling turbo.
 

IHI-RHC7

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Hey, the HK$ is a nice unit, Ian.
Why would you want to vent boost in neutral?
Turbo's need load to spool and it's like dry firing a paintball gun to try and spool in nuetral.
Stop that.
 

C.44

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It's already been said, but i'll tell you once more. A turbo is only efficient when the engine has a load... i.e. if you drive the car the engine actually has to do something, which results in more exhaust gasses that are blown into the turbo with much and MUCH more pressure. Which in turn causes the turbo to create a possitive boost.

When you just standing and rev the engine, the engine has nothing to do. Granted it does have bit of a load but nowhere near the load that occurs when it has to pull our heavy cars.

Now casper said that bouncing of the rev limiter makes boost. Well that's half true. Nearly half. Rev limiters cause the engine to stop doing what it should for a brief second to lower the speed of the engine. Only when the Rev limiter stops working the engine has a slight load for a brief time. Making the engine put out exhaustgasses with more pressure. Which in turn makes the turbo spool. But only if you keep it floored for a while. Otherwise the load engine is too brief to make a noticable difference.

Long story short, if the engine is not working hard as in pulling something heavy, it's not making the turbo spool enough to make possitive boost. No possitive boost means no excess air to vent when letting go off the accelerator.


/lecture
 

KeithH

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Some people like dry-humping (oops firing) their paintball gun. There is nothing wrong with that. Besides... all those movies where they do this are soooooooo cool! :)

Happy Friday!
 

IHI-RHC7

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Same to You Keith, got any more SILV calenders?
Heidi's B-Day is coming up and I'd appreciate a clean gift if you know what I mean.
 

ToyoHabu

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are you guys sure? even if you are not going anywhere the turbo will spool up when you rev the engine up. so if you rev eingine up to say 6000 RPM and then close the throttle, the turbo should be still turning high rpm and thus still pumpin air. With throttle closed there is no where for the air to go, so the PSI in the intake plenum will build until psshht. It all has to do with the amount of momentum(energy) in the spinning turbo. larger turbo = more mass = more energy storage = more psshht. how does this sound ?
 

IHI-RHC7

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Watch your boost gauge. the turbo spins, yes.
Thing to know. Turbo's don't work off of pressure in the exhaust.
They work off of heat. It's the heat energy in exhaust that makes the turbine spin.
That's why we hate superchargers.
If turbos worked off of exhaust pressure, they would have to be positive displacement turbines, which would rob mad power like the old muscle head guys think turbos do. Like superchargers do. Also, 5000 rpm would spool a turbo no matter what, hell idle would spool a turbo no matter what.
When the EGTs are low, exhaust gasses have very little energy to give to the turbine, and it doesn't spin with enough energy to produce boost, because it just slips between the turbine blades. Oh you can get a little puff from the valve, but without a two step putting load on the engine, and increasing egts, you won't hear a 10 psi bov sound in neutral.
It's the temp difference that makes the energy to spool a turbo. That's why we coat things to keep heat in the exhaust manifold and hot side of the turbo. It's not because we gain 3.7 hp by lowering underhood temps, it increases spool time because that heat isn't warming our airfilter, it's spinning our turbines.
 

ross1

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i wasn't trying to know anything i was just saying if you "have to hear the bov blow" while not going anywhere you can rev it and it will make a small chirp... i don't do it alot, actually only twice once i put it in to make sure it worked before driving...

anyway.
ross
 

Joel W.

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One of my friends has a turbo PT Cruiser. The waistgate/actuator is electronically controlled. (maybe the BOV also) It does sound bitchin sitting at a stop light going
Rrrmmm..PSSsshhht... Rmmmmm...PSS0ssssshht....Rrrmm..PSshhht

While only reving to 2krpm...
:biglaugh:
 
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