ahh shit, well I tried a few different vac sources and rerouted the lines to make sure and it all seems like it should be yet it surges (no blow off) with everything.... here comes the uh oh, I figured I'd adjust it, (hks ssqv) so I went real loose and nothing, then I went real tight and heard a crack so I backed it off a bit and tried it, nothing. WTF!?!?! upon further inspection I am still getting vacuum to the BOV line so all my vacuum is straight, could this be the second BOV I've had that is not working or a throttle bodie issue (I don't know, I'm reaching pretty far for possible causes)