Bilstein Adjustable Height Shocks...how much do they adjust?
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I will measure tomorrow and let you know. I have a pair of Bilsteins sitting up here with me and then a pair of stock dampers in the shop.
IIRC the top perch is the stock height (clip comes installed on it out of the box)
Unsure on how much drop though.
Unsure on how much drop though.
Sorry, I measured the other night and then totally forgot to post.
The top perch is stock height in the rear and a little bit lower in the front, maybe 1/8" lower in the front.
So the perches will adjust the height of the car a decent bit. The front much more than the rear. If you drop the perch in the front 1" the car will lower a lot more in the front than if you were to lower the perch in the rear 1". It would be nice if that took that into consideration and set the perches based on the geometry. But they didn't, so if you're messing with it, you might have to play around a little to get it to look right. For example, the lowest perch in the rear might work best with the middle perch in the front. Depends on weight distribution and spring rate and all of that as always.
Tim
The top perch is stock height in the rear and a little bit lower in the front, maybe 1/8" lower in the front.
So the perches will adjust the height of the car a decent bit. The front much more than the rear. If you drop the perch in the front 1" the car will lower a lot more in the front than if you were to lower the perch in the rear 1". It would be nice if that took that into consideration and set the perches based on the geometry. But they didn't, so if you're messing with it, you might have to play around a little to get it to look right. For example, the lowest perch in the rear might work best with the middle perch in the front. Depends on weight distribution and spring rate and all of that as always.
Tim
So the estimated height difference between the top and bottom perch is around 1 inch?
I also heard that the height adjustability isn't as big due to stuff that had to do with sprung and unsprung weight. I don't really know if that was exactly it, but basically if you change the perch and the distance between top and bottom perches is 1 inch, will the car lower 1 inch or will it do more or less?
I also heard that the height adjustability isn't as big due to stuff that had to do with sprung and unsprung weight. I don't really know if that was exactly it, but basically if you change the perch and the distance between top and bottom perches is 1 inch, will the car lower 1 inch or will it do more or less?
I think it's about 1" on the shock. But 1" on the shock does not equal lowering the car 1".
I don't know the best way to explain this. The shock moves less than the wheel. So if you lower the spring perch 1", the wheel will move up relative to the body more than 1". If you want to move the wheel up 1" relative to the body, you do not need to lower the perch 1".
Make sense?
I don't know the best way to explain this. The shock moves less than the wheel. So if you lower the spring perch 1", the wheel will move up relative to the body more than 1". If you want to move the wheel up 1" relative to the body, you do not need to lower the perch 1".
Make sense?
Poodles;1018421 said:
Kind of but not really.
What I am describing is just based on geometry and the definition of an installation ratio. The slightly progressive effect is due to the linearity of the installation ratio. What I mean is that the linearity of the installation ratio doesn't have any real bearing on what I'm saying.
And I'll have to remeasure, but I don't want this progressive suspension thing to get too far or get misrepresented. It really depends on the starting angle of the arm and how much travel you are seeing. And it's not a very large effect either way.
with my eibachs i set the rear to the lowest setting and the front to the highest setting (iirc) i'll doublecheck its been a couple of years since i put them on heh
this is before i started the engine and when i just put the car on the ground
after
all pics of when i had my 7m in the car not the 2jz
this is before i started the engine and when i just put the car on the ground
after
all pics of when i had my 7m in the car not the 2jz
So, is there an adjustabe ride height struts?? apparently so,I Talked to bilstein,also I Bilstein dealer and they are not even aware of it. what the part number? So, are these struts and not adjustable springs?
Wat?
They aren't struts, they're shocks. They are height adjustable by adjusting the c-clip position on the damper body. They are not threaded. You can add threaded sleeves to make them more adjustable, but you have to run a 2.5" ID coil spring.
I forget what the part numbers are off the top of my head, but they're the only OE fitment dampers that Bilstein makes for the supra.
Again, they're shock. They are not struts.
They aren't struts, they're shocks. They are height adjustable by adjusting the c-clip position on the damper body. They are not threaded. You can add threaded sleeves to make them more adjustable, but you have to run a 2.5" ID coil spring.
I forget what the part numbers are off the top of my head, but they're the only OE fitment dampers that Bilstein makes for the supra.
Again, they're shock. They are not struts.
Wiisass;1030693 said:
"Oh" sorry the thread title says "struts" sorry my mistake....thanks!!!
Hey Wiisass,
I learned something, the c clips come with the shocks,which i didn't know before. I thought you guys were talking about two totally different shocks (two different models) that you can get from Blisteins. I thought you control the ride height with springs and not shocks.
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im kind of confused, TLO86, does your car have lowering springs on it as well? or are they bilsteins with stock springs???
If its stock springs, what would happen if you put stiffer, lowering springs on them?
If its stock springs, what would happen if you put stiffer, lowering springs on them?
IwantMKIII;1036309 said:
I think he has Eibachs in those pics. And I also think the stock springs actually have a pretty high spring rate for the linear springs available.
suprarx7nut;1037730 said:
OOO i missed that, i assumed they were billsteins from the thread title.
If anyone has a picture a car with stock springs and billsteins shocks, please post up some pics
I'm really interested in how much they can drop the car.