Best place to order OEM matching paint???

empera

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ok i know some of u guys have painted cars/supras and was wondering if you knew the best place to get exact oem matching paint, i need to do some touch ups and paint a hood. So maybe a pint or maybe even in a spray can would be great.

Thanks,
-emp.
 

themadhatter

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ppg or dupont dealers can mix any color you want all factory colors are catologed for after market pant suppliers. All you do is look for your color code on most cars its in the door jamb i don't know about toyota i've never looked. after you have the code call your local paint supplier and order if you don't know there are different kinds of paint base/clear and singal stage urathanes. If you buy singal stage you must buy the reducer and actovator to go with it. if you go base clear you have to reducer for the base,and clear(they use differnt reducers to you hve to buy 2 types)and actovator for your cear.
 

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Ok, I teach the advanced refinish class for the insurance company I work for, so here is reality, and a short education on finishes.

1) Your stock paint code is the first step.

2) The painter then pulls the varient book for that code, and compares it to the car/panel that has to be refinished. Your existing paint from the factory does not match from car to car, thus the need for varients. Toyota mica red has about 9 varients last time I looked, and I'm not sure what the code for your car has, every paint company has a different set of varients. (They need them for many reasons, but flake brusing and other factors change the way your eye percieves the final color.)

3) Now, with the varient your painter thinks is closest, he should shoot a test card, and compare it to your color. If that's close, it's time to paint the panel, and hope it matches. In the booth, you can raise or lower your gun pressure, change the distance or speed of aplication and that will lighten or darken the color. (Flake tends to settle down, and pigment comes up when you apply it wet, and the reverse is true when the paint is dry.) This can cause halo's if you don't know what your doing when applying the paint... Also panel alignment when painted makes a difference, flake is not imune to gravity.

OK, what type of clear you use will also affect the final color, so make sure you painter actually clears the test panel. (Just spraying it with reducer to make it wet WILL NOT WORK. If you do that, your just guessing, and your sure to fail some of the time.)

Personally I prefer Akzo Nobel paints, Sikkens is a brand of theirs.

The guys at HOK can suck my sweaty balls! (They are the famous ones, but it's just a brand that Valspar owns, so your paying alot for paint that is just packaged and named cool... IMNSHO... They also F'd me over some training, so yes, I'm pretty bitter towards them, and they are nothing special.. :) ) They are high quality, but not better than Sikkens or others who are equally high quality, yet more cost effecive.

Most of the paints use pigments and effect flakes/particles from the SAME places... LOL

Try and find a paint company who's clear is high solids, yet crystal clear.. (Like Sikkens.. :) )

The yelow high solids clear's will change your color as you add more layers, and if you want a show car result, your going to have to color sand and buff it out in the end, so your going to need 6 coats/layers of clear coat, and then sand off a few to get the effect you want. (Unless you want to clear 3 coats, wet sand, clear 3 again, wet sand and then clear 3 more, only to wet sand and buff the final result, but I don't see any Riddler quality Supra's out there at this time.)

Good luck getting a good color match on an old paint job. It's not easy, and most painters screw it up. (Industry standard repairs in my business are not perfect repairs, they are "acceptable" repairs... :) )

Just look at any new car's bumpers to the quarters or fenders.. they don't match when they are new, and that's because the paint cures differently on metal v/s urethane, and the bumpers and other plastic trim parts are painted in factories, using different paints etc. They are not painted with the body of the car.. LOL Thus, things like door handles, moldings, mirrors and bumpers don't match.. And never will.

Again, the key to any excellent paint job is painting over a super clean surface that is devoid of flaws to start with. (I see so many great paint jobs over shitty body work, it's pretty sad actually.)
 

suprabad

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Adjuster said:
Again, the key to any excellent paint job is painting over a super clean surface that is devoid of flaws to start with. (I see so many great paint jobs over shitty body work, it's pretty sad actually.)

I've run and worked at more than a couple of body shops (custom and production) and this quote by Adjuster is the single most important thing about a paint job.

If I may paraphrase and draw a conclusion...i.e.

Cheap paint looks better on a properly prepped surface than expensive paint looks on a poorly prepped surface. Great paint on a properly prepped surface looks best...period.
 

empera

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a pretty good paint job i think would cost ~1500, nothing too special tho. once you start doing candy's and pearls...thats when you'll see the price go up a good amount.
 

Mr.PFloyd

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empera said:
a pretty good paint job i think would cost ~1500, nothing too special tho. once you start doing candy's and pearls...thats when you'll see the price go up a good amount.
hes got it covered for oem colors. if you want to just have it painted 1500 usually covers the costs with body work involved.
 

themadhatter

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color has a lot to do with the price black being the cheapist and red the most expensive. For a daly driver i don't see the need for anything special when i panted my crx i bought a gallon of jet black with reducer ,a gallon of clear with the reducer and actavater for around 350$ i went with ppg's budget brand called OMNI for the price you can't beat it but the color selection is some what limited.all to geather painting the car cost about 400-500 after i bought all the supplies filler,paper,blocks,cups,filters,ect. you have to remeber PAINT is cheap. pearl,flake ,candy and the name brand are where your money is at . If you just want plan color you can't go wrong with a single stage urathane for price vs durability/good looks