Anyone ever tried an STS style turbo setup on an N/A ??

[DGmk3]

I'm gonna do a rear mounted turbo setup this winter on my Audi ...no need for and intercooler or BOV and the turbo stays cooler. there's room under a supra for all the piping just a thought or is it stupid considering a full turbo kit is just a turbo car with a dead HG away

 

[Tire Shredder]

doesn't make much sense. that's a huge cost for really...no gains. those setups were designed for vechiles that did not have turbochargers in mind at all for their cars. In those cars there is no room in the enigne bay for a turbo and al lthe piping. Fortunatley, with supras they had turbos on them from the factory. replacement turbos, aftermarket ones and manifolds...piping kits are all readily available and competitivley cheap too....makes no sense to rededsign the entire turbo charger system of the car.

more ic pipes, water lines and oil lines is definatley not a benefit when there are so many other options.

 

[supra90turbo]

Remote mounted turbo on a supra is just plain dumb.
You can get a stock turbo manifold for $30

I challenge you to do the same with an STS setup.
You'll need an oil pump, lines, and not to mention 12' of IC piping...

 

[DGmk3]

Remote mounted turbo on a supra is just plain dumb.
You can get a stock turbo manifold for $30

I challenge you to do the same with an STS setup.
You'll need an oil pump, lines, and not to mention 12' of IC piping...

whatever it's just an idea to try something that else besides what every single person that builds an na/t does a friend of mine built one on a pickup for under $500 and it works good and has no issues so it can't be that retarded

 

[Tire Shredder]

like we said...great idea but not for us.

 

[DGmk3]

like we said...great idea but not for us.

yeah your probably right

 

[bigaaron]

I disagree, that setup could work very well. A few extra feet of ic piping will make very little if any noticeable loss in response or power, and, in fact, the turbo will run cooler and intake temps will be lower. I have wanted to test it out for a while. Remember, there is no intercooler needed because the piping is in the air stream under the car and the turbo is already cooler. If you take that into consideration, along with a true cold air intake in the back, the piping is only a few feet longer then stock with less pressure drop from no intercooler. It could deffinately be done on a MK3, there is plenty of space under there. It could go where the huge stock muffler was.

Anything has got to be better then NA! :biglaugh:

 

[supra90turbo]

aaron, you've got a point. anythings better than NA.. lol

IF your friend made the kit for under $500, then go for it. different isn't ALWAYS bad.

 

[JustAnotherVictim]

I say try it and see what happens.

 

[Chrisfrom1986]

Hotter exhaust temps means better spool time am I correct? So moving the turbo into a cooler exhaust stream would actually decrease the amount of spooling power available... then there comes the fact that coolant and oil lines will need to be extended wherever you mount your turbo. The youll have to figure out who to get that oil and coolant back into the system... hmmm custom remote sump much? Plus the fact that Im sure it rains pretty bad where your from... so keeping that intake filter dry would take some creativness in itself... If you undertake this task, lets see the result.

The above may be totally false information so ignore me as you see fit.

 

[bigaaron]

Hotter exhaust temps means better spool time am I correct? So moving the turbo into a cooler exhaust stream would actually decrease the amount of spooling power available... then there comes the fact that coolant and oil lines will need to be extended wherever you mount your turbo. The youll have to figure out who to get that oil and coolant back into the system... hmmm custom remote sump much? Plus the fact that Im sure it rains pretty bad where your from... so keeping that intake filter dry would take some creativness in itself... If you undertake this task, lets see the result.

The above may be totally false information so ignore me as you see fit.

You don't need coolant going to it, it would not need cooling. You do have a point about the exhaust temp, but it would still get the same pressure and we are only talking about 5-7psi here so you don't need much to make that happen. As for oil you could get a oil filter sandwich adapter and route it like it was a cooler, but partially bypass it to get only enough oil pressure to keep the turbo happy.

 

[csnow]

Doesn't cooler equate to denser? Wouldn't air that is denser spool a turbo faster? Maybe I am out to lunch with this logic...

 

[supra90turbo]

90% of turbo spool is due to heat, not "wind".
So, yes, come back from lunch. You're late.

 

[89supturbo]

i love this huge lack of real factual information regarding remote mount systems, lets just clear up a few things specifically regarding actual STS kits, first they still do require a BOV they also come with intercoolers which arent necessary but add quite a bit of power, as for oil they have in-line pumps that run to the turbo and theres no coolant in the turbos, spool time at least on V8's isn't an issue and about loosing boost u only drop about 1-2 psi through the system which isnt bad considering the stock supra intercooler drops 3.5

 

[Oper8or]

http://www.ststurbo.com/home

Interesting read. Facts.. love em.
I'll search for a forum to see if anymore imput can be found.

 

[inline6]

In response to the problem of water in your intake, they designed a special cover for the intakes on the STS's that are waterproof and breathable that you slip over it come winter time. Kinda sounds like gore tex.

I think the idea sounds pretty cool IMO.

 

[Clip]

yeah but anything like that seems like its going to get rid of a Lot of breathing ability. i say redesign the intake placement.