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brs86supra

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I am kinda in a bind between joining one or the other and I was wondering if some members that are up here that are in either can give me some details on that branch that you are in. Like for instance the lifestyle of your branch, some benefits, what you do, and what was basic training like. I wish to join branch and cant decided which one and would just like some details on both branches, I know "you should go talk to a recruiter" but sometimes they tend to tell you what you want to hear. i am looking to get something in the mechanical field whether it be air force or navy, but just dont know which field though. I guess all that determines what I get on my asvab. I plan on going in as an enlisted. So if anyone could help me with these questions or some details, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance.
 

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Air Force here, but I'm an officer...didn't go to the same basic training at Lackland AFB TX you would attend. I can tell you: expect to be deployed vs the Navy's 4-6 month sea tours. The AF (for most fields) is more tech oriented...however, the Navy is a close 2nd in that regard. Mechanic wise, the Navy is more diverse...many more opportunities as a machinist. The AF tends to lean toward the precision side in this field, but has less of a requirement.

If you have any interest in aerospace, the AF is the way to go. BTW - the sensor operator on the Predator/Reaper is an enlisted member ;)

The ASVAB is THE driving factor...the higher the score, the more opportunities. The AF can and will be more selective using the ASVAB as the determinant.
 

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I did 9 years in the Air Force. My complete experience was not the best, but I loved my job for at least the first 5 years.
I think a problem with asking a small number of people about their military experience is that everyone's experience varies, and widely. It's not because "your experience may vary"; it's because your experience WILL vary.
In the Air Force, even those with the same job who are stationed at different bases, or work on different aircraft, may love it or hate it. So a Crew Chief for a C-130 at one base, another C-130 crew chief from another base, and a F-16 crew chief from another base will all have different opinions. The operations tempo and mission of each base may also help or hurt its liking. I bet a kid who wanted to be an accountant would love to be part of the Comptroller squadron, but they may hate life if their ASVAB skills point them towards working the hydraulics shop.

By the way, the ASVAB is a good way for determining where to place people, but sometimes recruiters and liaisons will not use it well. All of my scores were very high, at the top, except one - mechanical. It was my lowest by almost 30 points. They wanted to sign me up for a job in "open - mechanical". What sense does that make? The liaison tried to reason that they wanted to make me a more well-rounded person, make me better at what I wasn't quite as good at. I said that sounded like BS, and that if this is what they were going to waste my skills on, I didn't want to join. He then tried to guilt me, asking if I knew how much taxpayer money I was wasting by going through MEPS processing. I told him that I pay taxes too, that they were trying to fill a slot, and walked out of MEPS. Had I waited to try and select a job AFTER I had joined, I may have been forced into a job that was really not the most pleasant.

Since getting out of the military, I've been working mostly with active and prior-service Marines - and trust me, we have all asked MANY questions about each others branches. Many of them, if they sign up and work as aircraft mechanics, may get called for deployment and NOT do that job while overseas; they may be on convoy or security patrol duty, because "every Marine a rifleman" and "you are a Marine before you are a mechanic". It is a different mentality than you see with the Navy or Air Force, where it is more oriented towards "fix the goddamn ship/plane - they do the fighting; if you have to pick up and use a rifle, we're all pretty much fucked already."
 

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Air Force - They have a much better quality of life than the other services, advancement is not too bad from what I hear

Navy - More travel, ships are better than FOBs, but slower advancement

Marines - History and lineage can't be matched, but their advance isn't as fast as the Army for the same job

Army - fastest advancement of all services, deployment are some of the longest and the hardest, quality of life is improving, so it's not too bad

jdub hit the nail on the head, it's all about the ASVAB. You need to score as high as possible, it helps determine what you are eligible to do and follows you throughout your career (at least in the Army).
 

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rakkasan;1392673 said:
Air Force - They have a much better quality of life than the other services, advancement is not too bad from what I hear

For the most part; however I've seen some of the enlisted housing on Cherry Point and Camp Pendleton [USMC], and it blows Hurlburt Field and Eglin [AF] housing away. "Slocum Village" houses [Cherry Point] are very nice, and I've now been to the houses of two young guys who live there, so it doesn't seem restricted to officers and NCOs.
I think that if anything, other services were most jealous of Air Force chow halls and treatment. We were definitely fed well, and we don't generally make people do things "just because we can"; there was usually a reason for any abuse given, whereas all of the young and old Marines have informed me that making one rank over someone means you can have them do whatever, and you are now "right". Some of it is pretty ridiculous.
 

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drunk_medic;1392680 said:
......and old Marines have informed me that making one rank over someone means you can have them do whatever, and you are now "right". Some of it is pretty ridiculous.

This could apply to the Army as well; it has a lot to do with immaturity, which stems from the current conflicts going on. There is a high turn over due to the op-temp, so younger guys are getting promoted far too soon, so the experience level is lacking.

It only hurts the ones doing it, the look like assholes to everyone.....
 

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My firend loves the navy he enjoys the travel (greece, japan, australia, south america, and so on) plus all the parties that they have when they go to port.Plus he says its not to bad on the ships. all in all he loves his experiance in the navy
 

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soundslikesemi87;1392807 said:
Did you talk to dustin, joe or any of our other friends that're in the navy? According to them it pretty much boils down to your asvab and the command you get assigned to. So...ask them.

um no, im supposed to talk to dustin this saturday.
 

brs86supra

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I just wanted to thank everyone for their input on the service branch that they are in. if all air force members could tell me what you do and how you like your job or what you dislike about it, i would greatly appreciate it. i think this will give me a outlook on the different careers out there.
 

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well, im just putting this out there.. but being that im in the Marines.. yes, My A$$ Rides In Navy Equipment Sometimes.. but you know what.. i dont mind that, cause i know there behind me.. hell, we got Navy Corpsman, witch is probably the hardest job in the Navy, or so i think, ive been all over the world.. maybe not as good as the places as the Navy, or the Air Force.. but so what.. from what ive seen in all the other branches.. The Army has there tanks.. The Air Force has there jets.. The Navy has there big ships (i still call them boats, i dont care..), But we Marines, what do we have.. We got Marines..

Now i can really say this.. when i was in Iraq.. we ran across alot of Army convoys.. where they simply left there fellow trucks and other soliders behind.. cause they wanted to get out of shooting.. dont get me wrong.. i did too my self.. But as a Marine.. i know that i have to bring back everyone of my fellow brothers, and sisters.. and, i will say that everyone of my brothers we did loose, we didnt leave them behind for someone else to get.. we went out and got them.. no matter what. Its the simple knowing that i have my fellow brothers and sister fighting next to me, protecting me, while im protecting them.. i havent seen that and any of the other branches while i was in iraq.

ohh BTW, im not a grunt..
I fix trucks for a living.. 3521 Motor T mech..
 

brs86supra

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so i finally got all my papers done and everything and i go to meps next wednesday and thursday. so hopefully i will do good on the asvab.
 

brs86supra

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no i havent signed anything yet. i just basically filled out my sf86. i go to meps Wednesday and Thursday coming up. so if i get the job i want or qualify for, not the ones they will try to push me in i will be signing up then.
 

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Oh, the SF86.. that's good. Going for a security clearance, huh?

Watch out for MEPS and your recruiter. Be very careful. Often, they will try to trick you, or "convince" you. You don't have to be paranoid, just.. cautious.
 

brs86supra

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ha shux, i didnt even talk to the recruiter much, just went in there and said i wanna join the air force. i just read from several guys on different forums, and talked to friends and went from there. and if i qualify for a job that i want and it aint available im just walking out and gonna wait till that one pops up. im not gonna let them push me into a certain job they want me in