adderoll

[Insidious Surmiser]

yeh, i know this is WAY off topic from supra's, but i took a 30mg pill (for the first time) this morning. it's of course for add, because i'm sick of it. anyhow, just curious if what's happening to me is normal.

1. feel physically and emotionally like complete shit
2. mad at the world
3. kinda suicidal (not much, but it's there) :-/
4. generally in a bad mood
5. feel like i'm overheating
6. havn't eaten anything all day aside from a bowl of cereal @ 8 a.m.

just kinda concerned, b/c this isn't like me at all, and if this is all caused by this damn man-made chemical, then i'd highly not recomend it for use by ANYONE

 

[exander]

When I took some of it I never got depressed or anything it just caused loss of apitite and insomnia. I would stop taking it immediately if it is causing depression/anger/suicidal feelings. Talk to the Doc about Stratera. I quit taking add meds a long time ago so I don't know how it works, but I've heard it is supposed to have very minimal side affects. I don't know I quit "fixing" my problem about 7 yrs ago and it seems to be fixing itself better.

 

[Insidious Surmiser]

When I took some of it I never got depressed or anything it just caused loss of apitite and insomnia. I would stop taking it immediately if it is causing depression/anger/suicidal feelings. Talk to the Doc about Stratera. I quit taking add meds a long time ago so I don't know how it works, but I've heard it is supposed to have very minimal side affects. I don't know I quit "fixing" my problem about 7 yrs ago and it seems to be fixing itself better.

it's minimal anger/suicidal feelings, but none-the-less, it's there, and silence amplifies it a lot too, like i'm listening to music now, so that helps, but yeh, i don't really like the whole idea of drugs either (lab-made), definitely, can't be good in any way, but i think i'm just not gonna take any meds. see if i can find a something natural to help... one of my friends recomended ginko biloba, just an idea

 

[exander]

ginko is really just for memory, but I guess you could give it a try. ADD is more of getting too many things going at once and getting bored with them. For example in school I always got D's and C's but yet I always scored in the top 98% with standardized tests. I knew it wasn't a mistake because it turned out the same when I lived in Cali and when I moved here. It was also the same with the ASVAB test, but I was always too lazie to just do the work because to me it seemed insignificant because I already knew what needed done so when I would "attempt" to do my work I would get bored and just not do it, so my guess is you are i the same situation, right? The best thing that you can do for yourself is just to force yourself to stick to one thing at a time, and I am sure taking all the vitamins and the health stuff will help your situation as well. But if the "remdy" is causing all of those side affects I would much rather see you hyper active and never paying attention than harming yourself or your body. I would just lay off of the meds and do some research on the "natural way" of healing ADD. Personally I think ADD is too easily diagnosed and often misinterpreted as just being a normal kid or teenager.

 

[Insidious Surmiser]

i hear yeh, for the most part, i'm the same, but i've got memory problems too, like for instance... i will pick up any given object, carry it around unknowingly in my hand, and then place it somewhere else at random, the entire time, not realizing i did this (this happens a lot), also, i'm horrible w/ names... maybee after 5 times, i might remember. Staying on task is also quite hard, unless i'm working on the car, i don't tend to get very off task when i'm at work on the car. But if i'm bored witht something, i'll immediately drift off into another train of though, say in class, i'd be trying to take notes/listen to a lecture, o hey, there's a red apple on the desk, it looks a lot like the paint on my car, i still dunno if i should get it painted a different color or not, a nice graphite color would be nice, like on the evo's, but i wonder how much it would cost after i had the entire fram + body pannles stripped and painted, then again i could just go w/ a factory color re-spray, and save a lot of money, but black and graphite are my favorite colors, i guess i'll have to figure it out when the time's right... and then i'll snap back to reality, and be really pissed off at myslef for drifting off like that (and i'm sure this exact situation has happened before, and there's usually a lot more thought put into it) i've drifted off like that for up to 30 min before, but that's why i'm going to an auomotive school, also why i'm tryin to find something (within reason) that'll help me out :-/, but this is not worth it, by far, in fact, as far as i could tell, it didn't even help my add, even if it had, the hinderances wouldn't outweighed the good

anyhow,exander, thanks for hearin me out/takin the time to read my babbling... what's your name btw? mine's dallas

 

[whenmunkysfly]

i got ADD. i really dont see a problem with it i just cant sit in one place for too long it sucks having it when you cant do anything but wait for you engine to get back from the shop.lol

 

[Yellow 13]

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[exander]

I'm pretty sure what you said fot the most part is fairly normal but the intensity you seen to concieve of such, seems on the strong side. You don't happen to smoke do you?(yes the may jane) It seems like most people I know that smoke seem to have the side affect, refering to memory loss, just as you explained yours. I guess I could see where the ginko can help. Also how much you sleep per day can have a large impact as well. More so if you get too much sleep rather than too little. That is mostly my problem, I think. But yeah I know what you mean it's hard and at times can even be embarassing.

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I didn't read through all of it but I'm pretty sure if you take these 3 herbs it might be able to help you. I don't know, but I'm sure it's worth the try. Iv'e am more than happy to help you out if I can.

BTW my name is Nick

 

[Facime]

yeh, i know this is WAY off topic from supra's, but i took a 30mg pill (for the first time) this morning. it's of course for add, because i'm sick of it. anyhow, just curious if what's happening to me is normal.

1. feel physically and emotionally like complete shit
2. mad at the world
3. kinda suicidal (not much, but it's there) :-/
4. generally in a bad mood
5. feel like i'm overheating
6. havn't eaten anything all day aside from a bowl of cereal @ 8 a.m.

just kinda concerned, b/c this isn't like me at all, and if this is all caused by this damn man-made chemical, then i'd highly not recomend it for use by ANYONE

if anyone is a doctor here I appologize, but...
First of all I really doubt anyone here is qualified to give you good medical advice. If you are experienceing thoughts of depression and feeling even in the least bit "suicidal" I SERIOUSLY recommend you talk to your doctor! It means the medication is not agreeing with you and may not be healthy. DO NOT JUST STOP TAKING IT! sometimes that can be just as bad or worse...trust me, just at least call your doctor and tell HIM what you told us here! PLEASE!





PURTY PLEASE?








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seriously...............just call him!

 

[exander]

if anyone is a doctor here I appologize, but...
First of all I really doubt anyone here is qualified to give you good medical advice. If you are experienceing thoughts of depression and feeling even in the least bit "suicidal" I SERIOUSLY recommend you talk to your doctor! It means the medication is not agreeing with you and may not be healthy. DO NOT JUST STOP TAKING IT! sometimes that can be just as bad or worse...trust me, just at least call your doctor and tell HIM what you told us here! PLEASE!

I agree with you about the whole seein' the doc part, but Adderal is a phyco-active chemical drug. Meaning it can change your thought process for both the bad and the good. Although my disagreement is I ssay stop immediately before side affects escalate. I do believe the Doc told me to stop taking it immediatley if there are any adverse affects. It's not like ADD is a life threatening disease. By not taking a medicine that is possibly adding unessacary hormones and chemical in to the body, is definetly not going to harm you. You're right I am no doctor, but I do speak from experience. I have grown up around a lot of medical knowledge, with my mom being a nurse and a few of my cousins being doctors. Yet still I am not educated on medicine and medicinal law, but I still say stop taking it, and then talk to his doctor. Emotions are much more powerful than any drug and taking a drug that changes your emotions is like a ticking time bomb waiting to go off. Look at it this way, if the drug is causing some suicidal emotions to stir then a seemingly insignifacant fight or something may set this time bomb and one may harm themselves and/or others around them. Onw might want to ask the Doc about it but if the bomb goes off beforehand then it is a lose, lose situation.
Sorry for the long rant :/

 

[Insidious Surmiser]

first thing's first, yeh I do smoke, already started quiting, simply because i'm goin to college, i'm gonna be in apartments, working at a car shop too that drug tests... reason why i do smoke is because as odd as this souds it's always been free, my friends have always handed it to me when i come over, not once have i/nor do i know how to roll a joint/blunt, or pack a bowl, nor do i know how to propperly buy either...

and about sleep... didn't know too much sleep can mess w/ you... i tend to do that a lot (that'll stop soon too, due to college)

basically, i'm doin as much stupid kid stuff as possible (within logical reason), before i don't have a chance again... but i'll look into those herbs, i'll give em a test run too , thanks again nick

 

[Insidious Surmiser]

like i said, i've only taken one pill so far, and this happened... :wtf:

 

[exander]

like i said, i've only taken one pill so far, and this happened... :wtf:

I would stop with that!

 

[Insidious Surmiser]

my thoughts, exactly... just curious if it's supposed to do that, and why the hell is it available to ANYONE?

 

[exander]

It's all about money. It is cheep for you to get it because of insurance, but around it sells for about a dollar a mg on the streets. It's sad to say but people think that messing with people chemical "balance/imbalance" is the instant cure all. Do I think that adderal helps those who need it? Well yes, of course I do but when you look at it nearly everybody has been diagnosed or can be easily diagnosed with it, it is very obvious that it is overlooked and just automatically a prescription is written to anybody who walks through the door. Each case needs to be looked at individualy and more accuratley diagnosed. When I went to have my diagnostic done, all it took was for me to answer a couple questions, Guess what they were. "Do you get distracted?" They asked this in about 3 different ways and it was prescribed. No tests, nothing. A simple verbal questionaire. I'm sure your experience was similar. Many people that have ADD are adolescence going through chemical changes and it is apparent why they can become easily distracted.

 

[Insidious Surmiser]

yep, exactly what happened... but this shit isn't a joke, there are some serious chemicals in those capsules :-/, i honestly don't think it should be available to anyone

 

[exander]

All that needs to happen is a little more responsibility when giving them out. And another thing is an evaluation should be done on adverse affects should be done for each individual patient, but I never had a follow-up. Supposedly the trend is starting to stray away from riddlen and adderal and head towards stratera which is supposed to be virtually harmless:dunno:

 

[Insidious Surmiser]

All that needs to happen is a little more responsibility when giving them out. And another thing is an evaluation should be done on adverse affects should be done for each individual patient, but I never had a follow-up. Supposedly the trend is starting to stray away from riddlen and adderal and head towards stratera which is supposed to be virtually harmless:dunno:

you looked at the list of side affects for stratera???? :eek2:

 

[exander]

NO, I only heard it was supposed to be minimal side affects, it's not?

 

[thesandymancan]

I AM NOT A DOCTOR, but the reason you feel all the side affects that you do is because the adderoll is depressing your system. someone who truly has ADD (not a 5yr. old who can't sit still) will feel this way because the drug is doing what it's supposed to.

exander: adderoll and riddalin have the opposite affect on someone without ADD. it wasn't given to you by a doctor, was it.

my teachers said i had ADD but my parents refused to put me on adderoll. i later found out that i didn't have ADD, when i tried it for myself. i could't sleep, eat or sit still.