160 degree thermostat
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i have the heavy duty fail safe BA 180* on mine. works awesome. might consider cutting off the jiggle valve and drilling out the hole a little larger as well.
i couldn't tell you how many different brands, types, and temps i've tried. on my car i like this one the best.
i couldn't tell you how many different brands, types, and temps i've tried. on my car i like this one the best.
Fubar231;1434446 said:
No it doesn't answer itself....infact your plan of action makes absolutly zero sense....sucks when the smartass comments backfire doesn't it?
Hhhhhherrrreeeee we goooooo aaaaggggaaaaiinnn:3d_frown:....... another member not useing the SEARCH
dont use the thermostat. The car will never reach proper operating temps. that thermostat is actually too cool. The ecu still see the car as being too cold and will try and respond by dumping more fuel, higher idle, etc to warm the car up.
queenskid926;1434511 said:
Would a 180 over our stock 195 throw the system off too much? Or would it be, deal-able? I know it'll use a little more gas because its trying to warm the car up, but isnt that only at idle? I could care less if my idle went up 50-100 rpms because the cars colder. Yes it'll use more gas, but it keeps it colder.
Fubar231;1434519 said:
no it wont just at idle since the car will never be fully warmed up. It wont be warmed up at idle, highway, w/e it will still be too low. As far as using the 180 ova stock 195, i cant tell you exactly if its good or not. More knowledgeable members can chime in.
Fubar231;1434519 said:
Try 1500rpms......seriously just throw your idea out the window as it's full of fail...if you're car is running hot then you have other problems that a colder thermo won't solve.
Run OEM thermostat and be done. Don't mess with A/F and mess something up. There is a reason Electronic Fuel injected vehicles have a coolant temp sensor to the ECU.
gaboonviper85;1434678 said:
No heating probs, t-stats leaking a little so i was about to replace the thermostat/gasket/o-ring thing and was just seeing if a 160 would be better.
Hmong_1G;1434683 said:
Yeah im just gonna listen to other people and grab a 195temp reg one. Should i go to toyota for this (Like i do for SOME parts) or should i napa this one up.
Toyota or stant....usually pepboys carry stant thermos which are very good quality and if they fail they are made too fail in the open position.
Fubar231;1434500 said:
no Sir! this Topic has been Covered Countless Times i myself had the SAME question *160 dont due Crap but cause more PRoblem ..i currently run *180 with NO PRoblem [for warmer climates like Miami wheres it's always 95degrees outside]
---------*180 is the lowest anything else ur causeing Harm to ur Car
Never had ECU/running problems with a 160 on a 7M, but.........
An engine that is only at 160 takes much longer to cook off water condensation, and raw fuel that collects in the oil during start up.
Not good if you do a lot of short trips.
Also, if running forged pistons, which heat up as quick as cast, but grow more,
you are less likely to have 'cold seizure' damage on the cylinders.
Been there, got the cylinder scoring, but not the Tee shirt......
Smokey Yunick once built a high mileage 'hot' engine.
If I remember right, on some small pos ford, like a pinto, not his 'Hot Vapor' Fiero.
He ran very high engine temps, hot inlet air temps to better vaporize the fuel.
This was the late '70s, early '80s.
I tried his ideas on an old pos datsun 510 wagon, and it worked,
I was able to nail down over 45 mpg on that old dog.
But it was a dog, really frigging slow.
Moral ?
Use a 180, the engine will make decent power, and not suffer any of the ills of running to cold.
An engine that is only at 160 takes much longer to cook off water condensation, and raw fuel that collects in the oil during start up.
Not good if you do a lot of short trips.
Also, if running forged pistons, which heat up as quick as cast, but grow more,
you are less likely to have 'cold seizure' damage on the cylinders.
Been there, got the cylinder scoring, but not the Tee shirt......
Smokey Yunick once built a high mileage 'hot' engine.
If I remember right, on some small pos ford, like a pinto, not his 'Hot Vapor' Fiero.
He ran very high engine temps, hot inlet air temps to better vaporize the fuel.
This was the late '70s, early '80s.
I tried his ideas on an old pos datsun 510 wagon, and it worked,
I was able to nail down over 45 mpg on that old dog.
But it was a dog, really frigging slow.
Moral ?
Use a 180, the engine will make decent power, and not suffer any of the ills of running to cold.
gaboonviper85;1434711 said:
those are fail-safe t'stats. i'm pretty sure all the stants aren't like that. i looked on their website but didn't find much.
i've always thought the standard stant were a little cheap. i've used the superstant before and i't looked like it was better made. whether that made a difference or not as far as performance, i'm not sure.